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Thomas Cox :社区治理需要共识,EOS未来属于世界——EOS WTZ直播连线Block.one副总裁

王团长区块链TV EOSWTZ 2019-04-30

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EOS主网上线在即,EOS Go社区举办了一场全球最大规模的线上Party。为了能让国内的EOS爱好者们参与到这场盛宴中来,EOS WTZ获得了EOS Go的授权,采用了B站视频转播+图文微博的形式,为国内的观众们转播了本场Party的内容。


与此同时,EOS WTZ与国内外众多节点和DAPP进行了连线直播,为海外节点配备了同声传译。北京时间6月4日晚,我们有幸邀请到了区块链治理专家、Block.one官方产品副总裁Thomas Cox来到了我们的直播间,并与Thomas Cox就社区关心的问题进行了交流。


这是Thomas第一次以直播的形式,与中国社区进行互动。在采访将要结束之际,BM竟然出现在了我们的直播中,还亲切地与中国粉丝挥手问好!Thomas还答应EOS WTZ,每两周会直播连线一次,解答大家关心的问题,欢迎大家继续关注我们的后续活动。


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EOS WTZ Interview Qs for 04-Jun-2018 


1. We all read your article “Why 30 Stake-Weighted Approval Votes for EOSIO”. Is there anything you didn’t mention in this article make you and block.one prefer 30 votes per token, and not just 1?


我们都读了您有关为什么采用30 票权重同意投票机制的文章。有没有一些其他的原因是文中没有提到的,但也促使您和Block One 最终选择每个代币三十票,而不是一票的机制? 


We needed to create a flatter vote curve. Dan Larimer has experience with Approval Voting for DPOS chains. He established a similar approach earlier on Steemit, which behaved as expected. So, this model is based on real production blockchain experience.


我们希望构建一个平滑的投票曲线。Dan也就是BM, 在委托权益证明机制方面有同意投票的经验,他在Steemit上就应用了类似的机制,并取得了预期效果。因此,我们使用这个机制是基于实际的区块生产经验的。


 

The number 30 is big enough to give us the shape of vote curve we want, with a long tail, and is small enough that the voter is not overwhelmed with choices.


30这个数字是一个平衡点,即能实现我们需要的长尾投票曲线,还能避免投票者选项太多不知所措。

 

A one-vote model would, I believe, create a very steep curve and would not provide a long tail of standby producers. We need a large number of healthy standby producers in order to provide the redundancy that DPOS needs for stability and security.


如果每代币只有一票,最终的投票曲线就会非常陡峭,不足易产生长尾的备选节点。但我们需要充足数量的健康备选节点来确保委托权益证明机制需要的稳定性和安全性。

 

2. Some EOS holders think inflation will devaluate the EOS they are holding. Could you explain how inflation could benefit to the community and also the EOS holders?


有EOS持有者认为通货膨胀会让他们持有的EOS贬值。你可以讲一下通货膨胀对社群和EOS持有者有什么好处吗?

 

Inflation will certainly reduce the value of tokens. All inflation does this.


通货膨胀肯定会让代币贬值,所有的通货膨胀都如此。

 

Inflation acts as a tax on all token holders, and is the only tax that is perfectly fair and applies to every token holder in proportion to their holdings -- everyone is diluted 5% each year. This is fair.


通货膨胀像是对所有代币持有者征的税,是唯一绝对公平的方式对所有代币持有者按持币比例征税。每一份每年被稀释5%。很公平。

 

You should ask, what does this tax pay for? It pays for many things:

 

A. Securing the chain. Inflation pays for the per-block payments to Active BPs

B. Providing a deep bench of standby BPs. Inflation pays for per-vote payments to both Active and Standby BPs so the chain is more resilient to attack and disruption

 

你应该问,这笔税用在哪儿?用在很多地方。


A.保障链的安全。通货膨胀奖励按区块生成数量支付给活跃节点。


B.保持备选节点的实力。通货膨胀奖励按所得选票数支付给超级节点和备选节点支付,这样链对攻击破坏的抵御能力更强。

 

3. As a non-BP community member, how I can claim the inflation rewards? What if I don’t speak English?


作为一位非BP社区成员,而又不会说英文,我又应该如何要求我的通胀报酬?


If you are not a BP, there is only one source of “inflation rewards” -- but the term “inflation rewards” is misleading. Remember that this is NOT a Proof of Stake chain where staking coins gives you rewards. It does not work that way.


如果你不是BP成员,取得“通胀奖励”只能通过一个渠道。但是“通膨奖励”这一词容易误导他人。记住,并不是权益代币越多,得到的奖励就越多。整体机制不是这样运作的。

 

Here’s a video that walks you through the method by which the EOSIO Software creates new tokens (via inflation) and distributes them:

https://youtu.be/vqVOqq__De0


想具体了解EOSIO软件的操作方法,以及软件是如何通过通胀来分发新货币,可观看一下视频:https://youtu.be/vqVOqq__De0

 

In summary, the new tokens created by inflation go to three things:

A. Per-Block payment to BPs (about 318 new tokens per BP per day, ~6,678 total per day)

B. Per-Vote payments to BPs (about 200 new tokens per 1% of the vote per day, ~20,037 total per day)

C. Worker Proposal Funds (about 107,000 new tokens per day)

 

总而言之,通膨产生新代币有三种方法:


A. 以区块为单位来支付BP成员(每天约产生318枚新代币,21个节点每天总量高达6,678枚)

B. 以投票为单位来支付BP成员(每1%投票,每天约产生200枚新代币,每天总量高达20,037枚)

C. 工作提案资金池(每天约产生107,000枚新代币)

 

If you’re not a BP and you want some of those new tokens, you’ll need to tap into that Worker Proposal Fund.


如果你不是BP成员,却想获得新代币,那么你必须挖掘工作提案资金池

 

How do you do that?

A. You write a Worker Proposal

B. You seek approval for it

C. It gets funded, and you do the work you promised to do

D. But you have to wait 6 to 12 months because the Worker Proposal System has not been built. And the Token Holders have to vote for that System via a Referendum, in order to bring the Worker Proposal System into existence.

E. And that vote is waiting on the creation and installation of the Referendum System. I personally expect to see a Referendum System created and installed within the next 60 to 90 days, but there is no official timeframe on that.

 

该怎么做呢?


首先,撰写工作提案

第二,工作提案被批准

第三,工作提案获得资助,提案人完成提出的工作任务

第四,由于工作提案系统尚未建立,所以必须等待6至12个月。而代币持有者必须通过公投对系统进行投票,以建立工作提案系统。

第五,目前公投机制正在建构,我很期待未来60至90天能看到公投机制的成型。但目前没有正式的时间表。


To repeat, there is no way in EOS to stake tokens to earn inflation. That is a feature of certain POS (Proof of Stake) chains, not our DPOS (Delegated Proof of Stake) chain.


再重复一次,在EOS的权益代币是无法赚取通胀奖励的,这与POS链的属性有关,与DPOS链毫无关联。

 

The only possible exception that I am aware of is, that there has been talk of creating a “token leasing” system, whereby you could lease your tokens for a payment. This has not yet been created, and it will be an independent DApp, and not a feature of the core EOSIO Software.

 

唯一可能的例外是,我也听到有人在讨论,尝试创设“代币出租”机制,在这个机制,人们可以以代币支付。目前这个机制并不存在,而这会是一个独立DApp,而非核心EOSIO软件的特征之一。

 

4. What’s your next step of bring global community together? Especially encouraging more non-English people contribute to governance.


您下一步打算如何把国际社群团结起来?如何鼓励非英语母语人士参与到治理中?

 

Let’s define governance. Governance can be thought of as having three elements:

A. Making collective decisions for a group

B. Carrying out those decisions, honestly and transparently

C. Altering the system of decision making, collectively


我们先定义一下治理。我们可以认为治理有三个要素:

A. 为群体做出共同决策

B. 公正透明地执行这些决策

C. 共同改变决策体制

 

How will more people be able to contribute?


那么如何让更多人为社群治理做出贡献呢?


The pace is slowing down now, and I predict that the governance process will be more deliberative. It should become much easier for people of all languages to engage, because there will be time to translate, time to think, and time to discuss the decisions of governance.


这个步伐正在逐渐放缓,我预计治理的过程会更加的审慎。未来各种不同语言的人能够更轻松地参与进来,因为会有更多的时间翻译、思考并讨论治理决策。


I also predict that there will be an explosion in opportunities for engaging in governance at the DApp and Enclave level.


我预计在去中心应用和飞地层面,人们会有更多的机会参与到治理当中。


Enclaves are like neighborhoods or clubs. They are sub-communities inside the larger EOS framework. They will need their own governance, just as a village does, inside a state that has governance, inside a nation that has another layer of governance, inside the international order.


飞地就像社区或者俱乐部。是大的EOS框架下的子社群。他们也需要自己的治理,就像在国际秩序下,国家层面有自己的治理,国家下州有自己的治理,州底下的村子有自己的治理一样。


DApps and groups of DApps will need governance also.


去中心化应用和去中心化应用群体也会需要治理。


5. Anything else you want to say to Chinese community as well as all the non-English-speaking community?


还有什么想跟中国社区和整个非英语社区说的吗?

 

While English remains the international language of aviation, maritime navigation, and EOS core governance, EOS encompasses opportunities for all people worldwide. There is a great need for trainings and documentation to be translated, for classes to be offered in all the world’s languages, and for DApps to spring up to support people in their native language.


尽管英语仍是国际航空、航海,以及EOS 核心治理主要使用的语言,但EOS 的机遇是属于世界上所有人的。仍有许多课程和文件需要翻译,多种语言课程的需求也很大。同时,我们也希望有越来越多的应用程序能以多种语言呈现,让世界各地的人受益。




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